Fish!

I have always liked fish, but everytime I get a little fish they always end up dying...and I feed them and change their water, and all the other good stuff, but it never helps!!!!

Large Animal Vet

I'm sure sorry to hear you're having so much trouble with your fish. I love fish too and have several aquariums and "betta bowls," which have a plant and a Siamese Fighting Fish(or betta) in each bowl.
Perhaps the problem is the kind of fish you buy. If you buy common goldfish, they can usually live in a bowl without too much trouble. It sounds like you're doing a good job of cleaning the bowl. Many times fish die because we feed them too much, and the extra food spoils the water causing ammonia which kills fish. One fish needs only about one flake of food per day. Tropical fish, which are really pretty, require warmer water than goldfish, so there has to be a heat source for them. But if they get too warm, then they die also.
There is a chance that the water you're using has chlorine in it, or bromine, or possibly ammonia. Usually town water is OK if you let it sit in an open jug or container for at least 24 hours before you put it in the fish bowl.
Bettas (Siamese Fighting Fish) are tropical fish and the males come in beautiful colors and have long pretty fins. Even though they're considered tropical fish, they can live in bowls with no external heat and do very well if your water is suitable for fish.
I would suggest that you go to your local pet shop and explain to the people what your problem is. Maybe when you buy fish, they don't know what equipment you have, and if you explain the situation to them, I'm sure they'll help you find a fish that is hardy and can live in your house. They'll also test your water for you, if you take them a sample.
Good luck and write again to tell me how your fish endeavor is going.

Goldfish

I don't recommend keeping golfish in a fishbowl. Goldfish are very messy. To keep a fishbowl (hopefully at least 2 gal, for any fish) clean with ONE goldfish would require daily water changes to keep the ammonia down.

Also, since common goldfish can grow up to a foot long and fancy goldfish can grow to around 6 inches long, a well kept and healthy goldfish will soon outgrow the bowl.

The standard "one inch of fish per gallon" does not apply for goldfish, as they are heavy fish and one inch of goldfish does not equal, say, one inch of danio.

A good measure for goldfish is 10 gallons per goldfish, at the least. Bigger is always better.

The reason so many goldfish can live in bowls for say, six months, is because they are extremely hardy. However, the water they are living in is poisonous and they are literally tortured as they die. They are the world's most abused fish.

Please, don't keep goldfish in bowls.

Goldfish in bowls

I disagree with not keeping goldfish in bowls. My girlfriend has now had a goldfish living in the same bowl for nearly 14 years. Her sister had another goldfish that lived for nearly 11 years. They didn't change the water that often, maybe once every 3 weeks. If the goldfish was being poisoned, it would've died by now. Anyways, it seems to be okay for the goldfish to be kept in a bowl.

Be Good to Your Goldfish

I am a vet student (and a fish lover)and totally agree with Amanda.

Because goldfish are hardy and survive under adverse conditions does not mean they should be kept in small bowls... (not sure what your bowl size is)

As in all animals large and small-- they need to have their psychological well being taken care of. And if you want to keep a goldfish, then it is your responsibility to make sure the goldfish gets well taken care of.

Another example: You can keep a budgerigar in really tiny cages, and they will survive-- but budgerigar does like to fly and should be given flight time!

Unfortunately for goldfish, it is not possible for you to bring the goldfish out for excercise (since the sudden change in water conditions would stress the fish and may cause death, even).

So it is important that you get a bowl or aqurium large enough for your pet. The bigger the tank, the easier it is to maintain the quality of water. Remember to get some filtration system. I can just go on and on about how you should dechlorinate the water... the microbial bacteria maintainence... plants... lighting... so pls do go read some books before you torture your goldfish unknowingly.

Remember, fish do need a stable diet balanced in nutrition! And yes, do not over-feed.

With good care, it is easy to breed these lovely animals at home in your tank, even. That's one sign that they're happy-- cos they will only mate if they are not stressed in the environment.

Good Luck!

Tropical Fish Related Careers

My son recently graduated from high school and hasn't found anything he likes better than to work with tropical fish. Are there any careers (decent paying jobs) in this area?

Where There's a Will

This is a tough one. There are jobs, but probably not as numerous as some other professions. And "decent paying" is relative. Who says if he's doing something he loves that he has to become monetarily rich doing it?

There are breeders of tropical fish here in the US, and the tropical fish market is huge as people have more expendable income. He could either start his own business raising and selling fish, or he might be better off gaining experience working with someone who already provides this service but is looking for "producers" to actually raise the fish.

I would contact local aquarium shops that sell fish to get contacts. There would be jobs available in some universities or possibly companies that have aquatic divisions, and contacting these would be a matter of asking lots of questions from anyone who might be associated with these universities or companies.

Anybody who's willing to work hard enough, does his homework, and asks enough questions can figure out somewhere to work to satisfy his wants. It may not be easy, but no one's guaranteed an easy job, and there isn't a job on earth that's "perfect."

As a recent high school graduate who has a real love for fish, it may be that making a living out of that isn't at all what he had expected. He may decide on another career and enjoy his love of tropical fish as a hobby. Good luck!

FISH

I have always had the same problems with my fish too. But they must have been sick.

Pigs

My pigs always end up not weighing enough; is there anything I can do?

This little piggy

There are too many unknown variables for me to give any suggestions. You must find a veterinarian who is interested in pigs and who can help determine why they do not weigh enough. Part of the question is: Do not weigh enough for what? For slaughter? For 4-H fair? For State Fair? The best help I can give is to advise finding a veterinarian who can help.

Fish

Do you have a filter and how many fish do you have?

Interests....

What interested you in growing up and during high school?

Large Animal Vet

While I was growing up in a rural-suburban area northwest of Chicago, many things interested me.
I loved being outside, I loved animals, and I participated in all the sports and after-school activities that I could fit in. I took extra classes, like Russian and choir, and was almost always involved in some project or other, whether or not I got credit for it from school. My siblings and I built forts in the snow or in the woods, made haunted houses in the woods or in our basement for Halloween parties, and made Christmas cookies for our friends and delivered them on our horses. We didn't watch much TV except on Sunday nights, which were family nights and we usually ate pizza on Sunday nights.
We helped my Dad build a barn for our horses and spent lots of time brushing, feeding, and riding the horses. We didn't have automatic waterers and big round bales to feed our horses - we had to do it all by hand and carry water out to the water tubs. It taught us responsibility and dedication to our dreams.
To earn money, I babysat almost every weekend night and worked with kids at the local recreation center during the summer. We kept busy most of the time, and we had a lot of fun doing stuff together -- mostly outside.

Research

This is cool how you put this together!

College Help

Hello, Doctor, I want to become a great vet one day, but I am having a little bit of trouble finding the right college for me. I would like to be a vet for any and all animals. I am a huge animal person. I have two dogs, one horse and I might get a bunny. I have been watching "Animal Planet" non-stop all summer. I am in the 9th grade and hope to be a vet; do you think you could help? Thank you.

Become a vet

I am in the ninth grade. I love animals and hope one day to become a vet. I spend a lot of time with animals. I have 5 dogs and 6 cats and I love them very much. I am learning and studying about animals so I someday can become a vet.

Advice to Lauren

You need to take pre-veterinary coursework for three or four years before you apply to veterinary school. Pre-vet courses can be taken at any number of colleges, but you must make sure that the college is accredited and that courses taken through that college will transfer to the vet school you plan to attend. Otherwise you may end up having to take courses over again.

There are 19 veterinary schools in the US. Your school counselor would be able to find out what states these schools are in. Most schools have reciprocity with states that don't have vet schools. Talk with your counselor at high school. He/she should be able to help you make the right contacts.

In the meantime, take all the science, math, and communications courses (like English and speech) that you can, as they will help you immensely in school later on. And your grades must be very good to get admitted into vet school, so concentrate on school. However, veterinarians must also be well-rounded people, so extracurricular activities are important for you to gain experiences and to enjoy school. If possible, spend time volunteering at a veterinary clinic to see if being a vet is really what you want to do. It's surprising how many young people spend a day or two with us and decide that being a veterinarian is really not all they thought it would be. (Or it's MORE than they thought; for instance when we must put animals to sleep because they can't be cured, or the owner does not want to care for them anymore). It is a huge investment in time and energy once you decide to become a veterinarian, so make sure it's really what you want to do. Good luck! We need good caring people in the veterinary profession.

Applied/academic

Should I take academic or applied courses in high school? Great info by the way!

Take a Lot of Courses

I'm not sure what this question asks, but my advice is to take all the science, math and communication courses you can while in high school. Biology, chemistry, physics, math, and English and speech classes are invaluable. If your school offers classes that also apply for college credit, like many English and comp and speech classes, it would be wise to take them. It makes that much less coursework during pre-veterinary medicine.

Good luck!

THANXS

Thanxs so much ..I really want to be a veterinarian but I had no clue where to start because im in 8th grade. Thanxs alot.

I'm Confused

What do I select as my major because I'm not clear. Do I start out as a biology major and then go from there? I'm looking at South Carolina University and when filling out the application I was not sure what major to select. Could you please help?

It Depends

Brittany, It depends on the school, and you need to check with the admissions committee or department. I assume you want to apply to veterinary school ultimately. In many schools you can apply to pre-veterinary medicine through the College of Arts and Science, or the College of Agriculture. I don't know about SCU. You can start out in any major and as long as you fulfill pre-veterinary requirements, you can always change your declaration of major. You'd be best off to ask the admissions person in charge. Good luck!

Schools/Courses

I'm in the military right now but as soon as I get out I would like to start on my future career as a vet. What college classes would I have to take before I try to get into a vet school? I guess I can say I'm confused and don't know where to start. Could you please give me some guidence. Thank you.

It's here

Take a look at this page of this Web site: http://www.careers.iptv.org/enhanced/1163/ec_profile.cfm

How Much $$$$

I would also like to be a vet, but first I'd like to know: how much does a vet earn?

Here's the Money

Check this link (under "Quick Stats") to learn about income potential. http://www.careers.iptv.org/enhanced/1163/ec_profile.cfm

Vet Assistant

I want to be an vet too!! But I want to be the vet's assistant... I have been watching that famous vet on Emergency Vet -- Kevin Fitzgerald. I heard of great vet colleges like UC Davis. I have 2 dwarf hamsters and a family dog. My family is considering getting more dwarfies. They are quick and so cute. Bye!

Vet assistant

Do you know where you can go to school to be a vet assistant? I haven't had very much luck, and I graduate from high school in five months. I need to find a college!! It would be much help if you knew, but that's ok it you don't. Thank you!!

All Allied Health Schools

Hello Tami, All Allied Health Schools (http://www.allalliedhealthschools.com) has a directory of vet assistant and vet technician schools.

Ami

Mom

My daughter is attending Columbus State Community College in Columbus, Ohio. The college is reasonably priced and it is a two-year program.

Where you can go

I know that some community colleges offer vet tech I would look into those or get on the Internet and search.

Vet Tech

I currently work at a vet office as a receptionist. I have also been training to be a vet tech. Any advice? I would like to be able to work as a vet tech without being registered. From what I hear, that is a common thing around the area where I live.

Online vet tech

Go to www.educationdirect.com and they have a train at home program for vet assistants. I'm going that soon. =) The closest schools for vet assistants are in Colorado, Utah, Arizona....etc

Hey There

I also would like to become a vet, and I am going to North Dakota State University. It is a very good school, and I think you would like it

comment

I'm taking a home course through Statford College.

A School

Oklahoma State University is a great school to go to and they're not too bad on price either. You should look at it. I am a high school student, and I am looking at OSU as a very good posability. I really encourage you to look at it and consider it as a choice.

See your school counselor

Tami, you could probably get some help from your school counselor. He or she can help you find a college that offers a vet assistant program. Or you could do a search on the Internet.

Cost

How much did college end up costing you?

College

For me it was about $20,000 dollars for starting and I was in college for 8 years taking classes through the summer and regular school year so if you're planning to be a vet STUDY!!!!!

Cost of vet school

Students today going through veterinary school many times have loans of $30,000 to $60,000 when they graduate. If they budget well, live somewhat frugally, and work at all, there is no reason for that kind of debt upon graduation. Iowa State University tuition and living expense is currently about $12,000 per year (includes room and board at a dorm). Pre-vet work requires two to four years, then veterinary school is another four years, but I do not know the current tuition for veterinary school.

online courses

Are online courses for vet techs and assistants just as accredited as going to an actual college campus? I am considering the online route but I fear my diploma won't be the same it would acually attending

I need some info

I also want to know the same thing that Donna asked. Are online clases for vet techs and assistants accredited as going to the classes or not?

How Many Years?

I really need to know exactly how many years of college you need to become a vet?

Years?

How many years did it take you to complete veterinarian school.

The answer is below

See below.

Confused

What is the difference between undergrad school and college? And what do I need first to become a vet? Also, what should my high school GPA be to get into a good school in Pennsylvania?

Undergrad

Undergrad is a term for anything under a four-year degree. You are an undergrad until you earn a four-year degree. Then, if you continue with schooling beyond a four-year degree, you are a graduate student.

Regarding GPAs for Pennsylvania schools, you need to contact the school you are interested in.

Years to Become a Vet

Take a look at this link: http://www.careers.iptv.org/enhanced/1163/ec_profile.cfm

Vet Tech Info Wanted

How long do you have to go to college to become a veternarian technician and about how much pay do you get being a veterinarian technician? If you could please answer my question because I am having a pretty hard time deciding what I want to do for the rest of my life. thank you

Read Other Emails

Stevi, you may find the answers to your questions by reading some of the other emails in this discussion. Look above.

Vet Tech

You can be a vet tech without a degree. It is the registered vet tech that needs to go to school. Vet techs only make like $10-11 to start off and usually without benefits. Now "registered" vet techs I am not sure--but they do not make a ton and they still don't get benefits usually.

Research

I have a reserch project to do on an occupation that we want to do so I need the education and training required,job skills, talents, earnings, employment rate, salary expected. And also benefits and health factors. If you could help I would be grateful.

The answers are here

Answers

Horses

I have grew up around horses as long as I can remember, so when I was asked what I would like to do when I get older I said, "A horse vet." Now I am a sophmore in high school and I need to start getting to the classes I need to take and the grades I need to get. And this week I am doing a project on horse vets and I can't seem to find alot of info on just horse vets. So if anyone has information on horse vets or pictures or anything like that to help me out on my project and to help me on the classes I need to start taking please send me information!

Horse vet

I know how you feel. I love horses but I can't find any information on horse vets. You can try horsecentric.com, yourhorseshealth.com, horsepages.com. Those are some sites I'm looking into. Good Luck!

Horse Vet

Hey, check out this Web site: http://www.aaep.org/shadow_a_vet.htm It had lots of info.

Questions

What are the education requirements? What are some job opportunities? What are some reasons to be a veterinarian? What do you basically do? Is it fun being a veterinarian?

The answers are here

Read through all the discussions on this page and browse through the other pages of the vet profile on this site. I think you'll find answers to most of your questions.

Colleges

What is the best college? I was thinking about Mid-America Nazerine University. Is that a wise choice?

Vet schools

There are many excellent universities and colleges to help you prepare to become a vet. Try this link (www.careermart.com -- Select "College") to explore colleges or visit a career counselor in your school. Ask vets in your area where they went to school and what they would recommend. Rexanne graduated from Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa.

what classes do i take

I'm 15 years old and in 10th grade. I would like to know if working at Animal Kingdom or Sea World would be a good summr job.

It Doesn't Hurt to Try

Working at either place would be a really cool job, depending on where you live, where you would stay while you're there, who would accompany you, since you are a minor, etc. But the fact is, there are about 10 jillion people your age (and older) who would love to work there, and only a few spots open for summer jobs. Mostly those go to older students who are studying marine biology or something similar. But it never hurts to try... Good luck! Dr. S.

hi

Yes, I do think it would be a good summer job

Health Class Questions

Is it difficult to put animals to sleep?

What is the most rewarding aspect of your job?

What do you find most difficult about being a veterinarian?

How many animals do you own?

Cat Question

Hi, I just wanted to ask a question about my cat. On her back, along her spine, she has these little bumps. These bumps look like light brown moles but in a way look like dried up blood. The hair on where these bumps are is also kind of bare. The hair in this area is shorter then the rest. She's a house cat and is the only cat in the house. Would you have any idea what these bumps may be?

See a Vet

My suggestion is that you have this cat evaluated by a veterinarian. The bumps may be something benign but could be very serious. A graduate veterinarian would be able to look at the bumps, do whatever testing is necessary, and then advise you on what they are and how the patient should be treated.

Which to do first?

I am currently a 2nd year student at a 4 year college earning my BS in Biology. I have decided to transfer as the science department is not up to par, in my opinion. I have recently decided to pursue a career in veterinary medicine and now I'm stuck at an important crossroads. I want to get my vet tech certification before I go to vet school to make sure this is the right choice for me (and also to earn some extra money while in school). However, I don't know whether the right decision now is to continue with my BS and then go to the CVT program or to do the CVT program now and then finish my BS and go straight to vet school from there. Any advice would be very helpful as this is quite possibly the most important decision I have made so far. Thanks!

Find Out What You Need

If you're bent on becoming a CVT, it might be better to jump in and do that first. You may have already taken a couple of classes that apply, and you would get exposure to the veterinary atmosphere to see if it's really what you want to do. When you go through veterinary school, most of the time you receive a BS or BA (depending on whether you go through Pre-Veterinary Medicine in the College of Arts or College of Animal Science) after 2 years of veterinary school. Some of the courses you've taken in Biology undoubtedly apply to the pre-veterinary curriculum, so find out how much more pre-vet work you need to do to apply to a school of Veterinary Medicine. It would be tough to work as a CVT while going to veterinary school because of the work load involved, but if you're really determined and willing to tough it out, it would make you much more adept at evaluating veterinary technical skills of the people you will work with after becoming a DVM.

High school jobs

I want to become a vet and want to find a job that works with vets somehow. I am having trouble finding any part time jobs. Are there any part time jobs that high schoolers could do or am I out of luck?

Not out of luck

You are not out of luck, but it may not be the easiest thing to find a paying job with a veterinary clinic. I don't know where you live, so I can't help you find a clinic to work at. But veterinarians want to hire pleasant, self motivated, enthusiastic people to work for them. You must be able to work with animals AND people to be successful in a veterinary career. If you're hard working and willing to do all the things that must be done with animals, which are not always pleasant, you should be able to find a job somewhere. The pay will not be great, and if you are really interested you might offer to volunteer at a clinic to show the veterinarian and staff that you are actually worth their time to hire and train you. You would learn tons just by volunteering at a clinic, and one of the things you might learn is that being a veterinarian is not what you thought it would be. Good luck! Rexanne, DVM

I love your site!!!

Hello, I am a 12 year old girl,and I would like to do something for my community.There is no shelter in my small town in Indiana, but lots of stray animals. Every time I see a stray pet that has no tags I grab them and feed them. Just recently someone dumped a cat on my grandma's porch, probably because we have 3 other cats and a dog out there. But it just made me mad for someone to treat an animal cruelly. So that is why I would like your advice, if I should try to start a shelter. But I am afraid I will get turned down. Is there also anyway I could get a small job working with animals at my young age?

Very expensive

Halleigh,

It is very difficult, expensive, and a long-term project to start a shelter. It is a full-time job, and almost no one can afford to start a shelter on his/her own. BUT... you could sure go to the city officials (along with your parents) and at least make them aware that you see this as a problem. Many small towns don't have shelters because there is not enough money to keep them going, especially in this time when so many government cutbacks are occurring. They will appreciate the fact that you took the time and made the effort to talk to them, even if they can't do anything. And who knows? Sometimes things happen just because someone like you took the time to care and to attempt to help. In the meantime, I know how tough it is to see abandoned or abused animals. If you take them all in and feed them, you'll have to quit school to get a job to take care of them all, and you are too young to quit school! As far as a job, see if your local veterinarian will let you observe at the clinic, or even get a job washing cages or walking dogs on weekends or evenings. There are laws governing what we can let people under 16 years of age do, but if you are pleasant and persistent, you may get lucky. You might want to be a pet-sitter for people who are going on vacation or would like their dogs walked while they are away at work. Get creative in your thinking. You'll come up with something.
Good luck!
Dr. Rexanne :)

Wants a list

If you could list a list of jobs that has something to do with animals that would surely be appreciated. I have been wanting to be a veternarian since I was seven and I love all kinds of animals. Animals are my passion and I would love it if I could work with them. Thank you.

Volunteer at the local clinic

My son is interested in being a vet or vet tech. I was able to get him to volunteer at a vet clinic in Alaska. When we moved to Colorado,I asked the vet if they had volunteer postitions at her hospital. They offered him a job cleaning, and they are also training him. He loves it. They have let him assist in surgeries and other neat stuff. Have your parents help you.

Concerned spouse

My wife just started her job as a vet this week. After the second day she was really upset and very stressed. She really likes the clinic and the people that she works with, but she says she feels like she doesn't know anything. She did very well in school and I know that she was well respected by her peers and the faculty, so I doubt that a lack of knowledge is her problem. Is it typical for a new vet to feel like they have no idea what they are doing? I don't doubt her for a second, but it would be nice if she could see that she is not alone. Thanks.

It's Normal

Yes, it's common. I had the same feelings when I first went into practice. As long as the people she works with are supportive, she will get comfortable with time. But if they are not, it may be that she has to confront the issue head-on with her superiors (or maybe subordinates, if they are a problem) and let them know that she needs more positive reinforcement than she's getting. Burnout is a real problem, but not usually in the first week.

Starting practice is a stressful time, and there's a world of difference between the education one receives in school vs the experience of real-life situations (although it's better now than it was when I was in school 30 years ago).

Hopefully by now she's feeling better about herself and her abilities. Otherwise there needs to be a change somewhere. Good luck!

Goldfish in the horse water

We are buying a horse farm with our children in NC. Our daughter has been told by friends in FL that the owners of their stable have large water tubs to water the horses and have put a few goldfish in each to eat any algae and mosquito larva. They also said that the tubs have not had to be cleaned in the 4 months they have boarded there. Has anyone heard about this process and the management as we could use anything that will help us not have to scrub buckets for 16 horses with more to come? Thanks, Barbara and Rich.

Goldfish in water

Yes, it works. I live in ND and we do it all through the year and it keeps the water clean, and they are neat to watch.

Essay

For my math class kids were always asking, How is algebra going to help us in the long run." So,now we have to do an essay on the career we picked and we have one question which is: "How is math involved with your career?" I couldn't find the answer anywhere so if you could help me it would be really great.

Math is important

Kaitlyn,

Math is extremely important in medicine (human AND veterinary) especially in formulating medicines and figuring doses for treatments and anesthesia. Almost all medicines and anesthetics are based on an animal's weight, though some are based on skin area. Either way, you must be able to correctly figure the dose or you run the risk of overdosing and killing the animal, in the case of anesthesia, or overdosing or underdosing medicines, antibiotics, etc. In many cases, underdosing does not accomplish the task, while overdosing can have devastating effects, such as reactions or death. So math is VERY important in medicine!

Dr. Rexanne

THANKS

Thanks on my report you have helped me with all that information on how math is important in veterinarian.

Put downs

I would love to become a veterinarian or a veterinarian assistant when I get out of high school but I don't want to have to put the animals to sleep (down). I would like to know please who does that-- the veterinarian or the veterinarian assistant? Thanks. ~Stacy~

A relief from suffering

Stacy,

It depends on the clinic you work in. In our clinic, our head technician does not have a problem putting down animals who are so sick or old and decrepit that they cannot get better. So if I, the veterinarian, am not available, she will do it. If I am in the clinic at the time, I usually do the euthanizing. When you are hired by a clinic, you should make known your feelings at the interview, so that there is no misunderstanding about your job and whether or not you are willling to euthanize animals. In some places, you are expected to, but in others you would have a choice. Perhaps when you see the effects of an animal kept alive long after it is happy and comfortable, just because the owner can't bear to say goodbye, you will appreciate the privilege of being able to relieve suffering and pain through the avenue of euthanasia.

Dr. Rexanne

vet school and working

Hello I am currently an undergrad student pursuing my bachelor's degree in Veterinary and Biomedical Sciences. I hope to go to Iowa State University after I have my bachelors degree and was curious as to how time consuming vet school is. Is it unreasonable to have a part-time job and attend vet school at the same time? With vet school being something that you have to devote most of your time to, how do you manage to make enough money to support your cost of living while attending school?

Changing careers

Hi, you might just laugh at this post! I have a 4 year degree in Business Management. I have now realized I want to be a vet. I love animals. My GPA probably averaged 3.0-3.5. How many yrs am I looking at? Does my GPA seem high enough?

Change is good

Dear Brandy,

There's nothing to laugh at. It's common to decide you want to do something different than you started out in. Actually, your training and degree in Business Management would be a tremendous asset to a veterinary clinic. Depending on courses you have taken, pre-veterinary medicine usually takes at least 2 years, but many of your classes would qualify, so you'd have to check with the college you're considering. Veterinary school is 4 years of intensive training, and your GPA of 3.0 may not be high enough in some schools, but 3.5 would qualify you anywhere. Schools realize that the profession needs good business people, so that would be in your favor. Start asking questions, and I don't care how old you are, you're never too old to learn. So go for it!

Dr. Rexanne

VET ASSISTANT

I am studying to become a veterinarian and want to become a vet assistant before so I can get experience around animals. I am thinking of doing one of those study at home courses. I wanted to know what you thought about these study at home courses. In order to become a vet assistant what exactly do you need in terms of accreditation or certification?

Question

How many years of schooling do you need to do to be a veterinary assistant? Can I be one before I start school?

At home study

To be a certified veterinary technician, you need to attend and graduate from an accredited veterinary technician school. At home courses can qualify you as a veterinary assistant, but I would recommend that you investigate on-campus programs first, rather than spending time and money on an unaccredited home course, which has no accountability as far as I know. Meanwhile, volunteer at a veterinary clinic to get some exposure and see if this is really what you would like to do, or ask if you can job shadow at a clinic somewhere. Many vet clinics would gladly assist you, as they frequently have shadowers and volunteers.

What Are My Options?

I'm a single mother at the age of 18. I have a full-time job for now, but I really want to work on my career. And I have no baby sitter, and this is my only option. What other advice or alternative do you have?

There are Options!

There are a lot of options for you. One consideration would be to enroll in telecourses through a community college. You watch the programs on your television and get credit from the college. Call your local community college and see if they offer telecourses.

Most colleges offer online courses. But you would need a computer and Internet access to take these.

Does your employer offer any education benefits? You could ask. Some companies offer opportunities to further your education.

Call your local community college and ask to visit with a admissions counselor. They may have ideas for you.

Vet student

I think you should try to go to a two year college or something easy to accommodate your schedule. Some two year colleges have a nursery that would help in caring for your child too.

At Home Study

I was just reading your response to Ashley B.'s question about at home learning for Vet Assistant. You mention unaccredibility in online trainning for vet assistant courses. My question is, what would you recommend for someone in my position...? I am very interested in obtaining a degree in vet assistant, but I am a 36 yr old mother of two small children and working full time in a different field. I have no time to attend an actual school. My only option is online degree.

You Have Your Hands Full

On line learning is fine and you definitely learn something from it. What you have to realize is that you will receive a certificate from the school, but you cannot take the test to be a certified technician if you do not attend an accredited school and successfully complete the veterinary technician course (usually 2 years). The value of the on-line course is that you have some exposure to the material, and it says to prospective employers that you have done the work on your own to complete the course, hence you have stick-ability, especially with 2 small children and another job. To have much value, though, you really need hands-on experience. We have a person now working for us who took an on-line course and had to perform 200 hours of volunteer work with veterinarians to receive her certificate. She worked at two different clinics for a total of about 8 months to complete this, and when she was done we had an opening for an assistant. We hired her, and she has turned out to be a very good choice. However, all the on-line knowledge she acquired was just a jumping point to start from. Her hands-on experience was of more value because of her book learning. She still is not qualified to become a certified technician, which is much more valuable to a high powered veterinary clinic. It depends on where you live and what you want to do. Do not be fooled into thinking that a veterinary assistant will make as much as a certified technician (and the amount depends on where you live and what kind of practice you want to work for). Sounds like on-line might be the best for you at this point. You have your hands full enough as it is. Dr. Rexanne :)

Vet Assistant

Where is the closet school in north carolina for vet asst?

Student

I would like to reply to your comment. See I always thought these courses were a bunch of bologna because I think you need a teacher to be there and instruct you on the possible questions that you might have.

Wanna-be Vet Tech

I have expereinced the world in vet medicine as both a kennel technician and a non-certified vet assistant. I have held MANY positions in other fields and KNOW that working with a veternarian is what I choose as my life long career! I recently moved and I am now seeking employment at a vet clinic. I want to study and be a CVT as soon as possiable, although MONEY is an issue as of now. But when the time comes I was planning to do Internet courses but am unaware of what all those courses require ...does anyone know from expereince? I do not believe I will be accepted into any college b/c I wasn't a very good student in high school and my GPA (although I do not know its exact #)was low. Plus I FEEL (PLEASE correct if im wrong) that I'd have to take alot of BASIC courses in the beginning and I'm not getting any younger if you know what I mean. Basically i just want to learn what I need to know to be a CVT and not 'lolly-gag' about it. Please, any advice would be appreciated. I'm not looking to 'get rich quick.' This is my passion. This is all about what I want to do! What I LOVE. Thanks so much in advance to all who reply! PLEASE keep in mind when replying that I live in Montgomery,AL (USA)..so my options (correct me if im wrong)are limited.

Be a tech

After spending 20 years in the field of business management,I gave it all up and went to work in a kennel. Soon I began to help the techs out. I am not certified but am a vet tech assistant. Alot of clinics are leaning this way. Try ever clinic in your town. Good luck to you.

Another similar situation

Not sure if either one of you will see this, but I too am in a similar situation. Married w/ a 14 mo old. I am looking into a program near me that will take me between 2 to 2 1/2 years to complete and is pretty expensive IMO. The program I am looking into requires 30 credits of general studies (biology, interpersonal relationships, humanaites, composition, ect). If either one you went through with your educations, I would love to hear about your experiance!

Question

What would be a good vet school to attend near or in North Carolina?

RN Student to be vet tech

I live in Florida and would love to be a vet tech. I have currently one year left of nursing school before I graduate with my AS in nursing. I love animals and love helping them, I love doing the nursing stuff but I'm just not completely happy with it. Does anyone know of any schools in NE Florida? Any advice???

Too Late for Me?

Hi there, I have been struggling with the decision to be a DVM for 10 years! I have a BS in Exercise Physiology and have a fulfilling career. However, my first love was vet medicine. I was a veterinary assistant from age 16 to age 24. Went to Colorado to attend vet school and was so discouraged by the admissions process, I switched to the degree I have now. I have regretted this choice ever since, but is it really too late for me? I am 36 years old and continue to dream about it daily! What do you think? Thank you!

Never Too Late

Jenny,

It's never too late! The fact that you continue to dream about it daily means something. However, if you were discouraged about the admissions process, I would be concerned about your commitment to something as difficult as veterinary school. It is no picnic, though having been an assistant for 8 or 9 years, you have a good idea of what you'd be able to do when you graduate.

Finances are a consideration - you will have at least 4 years (if you finished all the pre-vet requirements) of expensive schooling with little opportunity for income, unless your exercise physiology job is established enough to provide some income.

It would be a good idea to talk to a counselor at the veterinary school you're thinking of applying to, then go from there.

Good luck! Dr. Rexanne :)

Vet Tech

I will soon be graduating with a bachelor's degree in biological science. I have heard that there is an alternate route to becoming a vet tech if you have a bachelor's degree in vet science or a "closely related subject." Is this true? If it is true, would I qualify for this program? I have heard that it involves working under a vet for 1 year and then taking the vet tech exam. Please let me know if you have any information regarding this subject.

The Path to Success

I am seriously looking into a vet's assistant program that you can do from home. What are your thoughts/suggestions regarding this? How hard is it to become licensed after taking a course like this? I really don't want to waste my money only to find out that once I graduate and receive my diploma that I am unable to find a job. Do you happen to know the placement statistics for people that graduate from programs that you can do at home? I would really appreciate any suggestions or words of wisdom that you could provide. Thanks!!!

What Classes are Best

I am an 8th grader. I was wondering what classes would be best to take in high school, to help me prepare for becoming a vet?

Get Strategic

Ashley: take a look at the "Getting Strategic" link on this site. It lists recommended classes.

What types of classes

I'm doing a report for school and I want to be a veterinarian and I can't find any Web pages on the types of classes you need to take. I was just wondering if you have found one? Please respond if you have.

Check out this link

http://www.careers.iptv.org/enhanced/1163/ec_getstrat.cfm

Animal occupation

I am currently in high school and am trying to find a job that is suitable for me. I love animals and would love to work with them. I know that love is not enough to acquire a job like this, so I know lots of studying is required. My problem is that I am not sure exactly what I want to do with animals. I am trying to find one that can make a decent amount of money that I can live off of. I am not expecting to be rich, but I would like to know of some of the different jobs concerning animals and the wages. Also, I would like to know what kind of average I should achieve in my high school classes for those jobs. (I live in Alberta, Canada.)

Training to help stray animals

My husband and I are 52. We somehow have become a hotel for stray cats. We can't afford to take care of all of them, only our 3 indoor cats. They were strays also. We feed and provide shelter for the outdoor ones, but we would like to do more. Some are definitely in need of med. attention. We don't want to have them put to sleep and the no kill shelters are full up. What kind of training could I get to just do basic things like give shots and help them when they hurt their feet, etc. Would correspondance courses or online training be good for that? Sorry this is long. Thanks!

My goldfish

I'm a new buyer of goldfish and I didn't know that you had to let your goldfish get used to your water before putting them in it, so I just put them in there. They aren't moving around much, just staying on the bottom of the fishbowl and moving every so often. (I got two common goldfish in one fish bowl, is that wrong?) I'm scared they're going to die, what shall I do? Please help me!!

Acclimate fish to your water

Don't panic; goldfish are pretty hardy. It's a good idea to acclimate them to the water, but the fact is, some water is just not good for fish. If you are using city water, it may be chlorinated, so you have to let it sit in the bowl for 24 hours before you put the fish in. Then when you go to add the fish, put the bag of fish in the water for 15 minutes to let the temperatures become the same, then add a little of the bowl water to the bag. Do this every 4 or 5 minutes till the bag has a bunch of the bowl water in it. Then it should be safe to add the fish to the bowl. You can't put the bowl in sunlight, as it will get too hot for the fish. Also, feed only a very tiny pinch of food every day. One of the most common problems with fish is overfeeding. The water becomes sour and poisoned from the food rotting. Feed them only what they will eat in 10 minutes. If they die, take them back to the store where you bought them, explain the problem, and maybe they can help you determine if there's a problem with your water. Take some of the water with you, as they may be able to test it. Good luck!

Not a fish bowl

Hi Natalie!

I don't own goldfish quite yet(not enough $$$)but I have read several books that say you should not use a fish bowl at all! I'm thinking of getting a 10 gallon aquarium and stand, for example. I 'm going to get mine new but used tanks are great. Just check them for scratches and leaks before forking over the money. You should make it so your setup has a lot of surface area while still fitting your space requirements (tabletop aquariums are good too).

Can I do it?

Well, my question is, do you think I can be a veterinarian? I am currently 14 years old right now and, in less than 2 months, I will be starting 9th grade(freshman in high school). I've wanted to be a veterinarian for a long time, and I know I'm smart, considering I got a 97 average for the last four years of middle school combined and tied for the highest grade average for four years combined with two other people. However,I really do not enjoy science very much, only some of it, and I really don't think I will like physics especially. Despite that (and the fact that although I do well in classes and get A's, science is usually not my best...it's so confusing -.-)I absolutely love animals with all of my heart and very much wish to be a veterinarian and save animals' lives. Do you think that if in high school I take all high science and math classes and really try at them, good (maybe not the best if this is too much work) English classes, and extra curricular activities that I can do it? Does not enjoying science make it too hard to become a vet, or do you think I can work through it knowing that one day it will make my dreams of being a vet come true...?

-Kate M.

Please Help.

I want to work with animals. But, what other careers can you do besides becoming a veterinarian? I personally want to work in an animal shelter or some job that rescues homeless and sick animals. Please help. Thanks.

Jobs

If you really want to work with animals in a shelter or an adoption center, you can go to an ANIMAL RESCUE CENTER and help rescued animals to become well enough to become adoptable and cared for by a loving home.

Should I just give it up?

I've just recently started looking into a career as a CVT. I'll basically be starting from scratch as I only have about 20 credit hours of college. After checking with the schools near me, no one offers any sort of veterinary courses. Zoology is the closest I've come. I'm 36, married with a child, just bought a house...so I'm in no position to move to another state. Does this mean I just have to give up on this or is it even possible to acquire a certification through on-line courses + volunteer work? Is there any other way to achieve my goal besides relocating?

Don't Give Up

There are courses through Internet and home study that can be taken towards a veterinary assistant position, along with many hours of volunteer work which need to be fulfilled. But this will not work towards becoming a CVT, which is a Certified Veterinary Technician. In many states you must attend and graduate from an accredited school, then pass the national and state boards to become a CVT. Many veterinary clinics will hire interested people and train them, but that falls short of your goal of becoming a CVT. Don't give up - but you may have to modify your original goal.

Vet tech or assistant

I came across your site last night and was impressed by the amount of info in regards to animals and their care and needs. I am very interested in becoming involved in the Vet field and had a couple of questions and was wondering if you could help me out.

What is the biggest difference between Vet tech and vet assistant programs?? Is one superior to the other?? Which one is in higher demand and which one pays more? Would a diploma in Vet assistant help with courses in Vet Tech, and would it make me more in demand??

Any info that you can provide me with would be of great help. Thank you again. Sincerely, Allan

Vet Tech/Assistant

Alan: There is a big difference between vet tech and vet assistant. The programs for vet assistants may not be monitored well, and while you would learn many of the same things as a veterinary technician, you would not be certified, would be less in demand, and probably get paid less. A veterinary technician gets certified by passing state board exams, and while the training may be more rigorous than that for a veterinary assistant, you would be much better off spending the time and money to become a veterinary technician. Certification comes from passing the board exams, and the title that goes with it is CVT (Certified Veterinary Technician). CVT's are paid more than vet assistants, and are more in demand. As a CVT, you can do many more things than a vet assistant, and if you really like working with animals AND people (I cannot stress this enough - you really must like working with people if you want to work in a practice situation) you willl be happier as a veterinary technician. Going through the process of becoming a vet assistant first would require much duplication of effort and would not necessarily make you more in demand. You would be better off working (volunteering if necessary) at a Veterinary Clinic and shadowing a CVT than taking coursework for becoming an assistant. Good luck! We need more good CVT's in the field. Rexanne, DVM

Classes for Future Vets

I am going to be a freshman, and I have been wanting to be a vet since I was little, and I was wondering what certain classes you need to take in high school that would help you in becoming a vet?

Check Out This Page

http://www.careers.iptv.org/enhanced/1163/ec_getstrat.cfm

Animal Lover

I have always loved animals and I am a junior in high school now so I was wondering what classes I have to take in high school. I read somewhere that you need to take chemistry and anatomy to prepare for classes in college. I would very much appreciate it if you could send me or tell me what classes I need to take in both high school and college. I would very much appreciate it.

I love animals

I`ve loved animals since I can remember. I pretty much love anything thats alive except bugs. I'm a sophomore in high school, and I would like to know what classes I have to take to get me ready for college.

See Above

See "Check Out This Page" above. You will find a chart at that address. The chart identifies the recommended high school and college classes.

Help

I'm a junior in high school, and I'm seriously considering becoming a veterinarian. I live in the country and have always been around and loved working with animals. I'm just not sure how to start pursuing this career. I live in southern Ohio, and I know I can take pre-vet courses at a college near me and then go on to Ohio State. What advice could you give me on finding out if this career is truly something for me?

Go, Country Kid

Lindsay,

My suggestion is that you shadow with several veterinarians and maybe volunteer to work in clinics near you so you can see if this is really what you want to do. Call and ask them if you can watch/ride with them. If one says no, try another. Most veterinarians are glad to mentor interested students, especially those who show interest in rural practice. Talk to your school counselor (although not all are well versed in how to help pre-vet students) to get help locating veterinarians who might mentor you. Make sure that the college you go to has pre-vet classes that will be accepted by Ohio State University (or wherever you plan to apply to vet school). Not all schools accept all community college classes, and then you have to retake them at the vet school you want to attend. We need country kids to go into veterinary medicine! Good luck! Dr. Rexanne

What Classes?

I want to become a large animal vet technician. What classes should I take to prepare me for college and what school would you recommend?

Vet Prep

For the recommended classes in high school and college click on this link: Get Strategic - Veterinarian

As for recommended schools: There are 19 veterinary schools in the US. Your school counselor would be able to find out what states these schools are in. Most schools have reciprocity with states that don't have vet schools. Talk with your counselor at high school. He/she should be able to help you make the right contacts.

Vet

Good website.

Vet Tech

What are all the duties of a vet tech? Do they go in operations; do they assist in them? Would it help if I work at my local vet? What would help me get that job? Thank you.

Vet Tech Duties

Vet Techs do a multitude of duties. They assist the veterinarian in all phases of practice (or research). They take histories and vital signs of animals, restrain them while the veterinarian examines them; they do treatments prescribed by the veterinarian; they assist with surgeries and monitor anesthesia while the surgeon is working; they monitor the animal while it's recovering from anesthesia; they do physical therapy if prescribed; they draw blood for testing; they run all laboratory tests; they administer medications prescribed by the veterinarian; they handle phone calls and questions from owners concerning the animals' recovery; they do nursing care on sick animals (which may include cage cleaning, bathing, whatever is necessary), and perform paperwork and sample preparation. There are many other things which may be included in the job of vet tech, so this is not an exhaustive list.

It would help tremendously if you could work as a tech assistant or even kennel help at a veterinary clinic. Volunteering is an option if there are no jobs available and will give you both experience in a veterinary clinic and an opportunity to ask questions, observe, and find out if being a vet tech is really what you want to do. Because of liability issues, you may find it hard to volunteer at a clinic, but be persistant and explain to the veterinarian what you want to do. Veterinarians are always looking for good prospective vet techs! Good luck! Rexanne DVM

Vet Tech

I'm a animal lover. I love animals with all my heart. They are like the world to me. I do anything to take care of them. I wanted to be a vet tech ever since I was a little girl and I want to become a vet tech. But I need to know what kind of classes to take in high school and college. What kind of skills and ablilities you need to have and what kind of income you get when becoming a vet tech?

What to do now?

Hello, I recently graduated from college with a degree in physics and philosophy, but I have since realized that I want to pursue a career as a vet. Right now I am training to become a vet tech, but I am very confused as to what I should do in order to become an actual vet, since I already have a degree in different fields. Also, I would need to bring up my GPA from a 3.0 due to some really tough physics courses. Is it possible for me to achieve this at all? If so, what should my next steps be? Thanks so much!

Love is Not Enough

Linnea, Of course it's possible to achieve this, and physics courses are required for Pre-vet medicine, so you're already part way there. You also need chemistry and biology courses, but your first step is to find out where the vet colleges are near you, or where you might decide to apply. If there's a vet school in your state, you have the best chance of being accepted as an in-state student. If your state does not have a vet school, you have a better chance of getting into an out of state school than someone who applies from a state that has a vet school. Grades are an issue, but many vet schools will accept a GPA of 3.0. Find the counselor in your school (or any school) who can locate the vet schools. Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Missouri, and Kansas all have vet schools. Nebraska works with Iowa State, and North and South Dakota also have some seniority with Iowa State as far as students being accepted. There are 28 schools of vet medicine in North America. Find out what the requirements are that you have not yet fulfilled, and figure out how to fit them into what you're already doing. Once you're enrolled in the final courses you need, you can apply. You will probably go through VMCAS, which is a national registry for any vet school, then you choose which school(s)you want to apply to. Different schools have different requirements. You need to know the requirements before you apply, as the application fee is usually non-refundable. Good luck!

PS. If you just want to be a vet because you love animals, stick with what you're already doing and become a veterinary technician. They work with animals all day and don't have all the same responsibilities that a veterinarian does. There has to be more than just a love of animals to justify becoming a veterinarian. Anyone can love animals.

Dr. Rexanne

Vet tech

Hi, I have read all of your comments and you people ask some pretty good questions, but I found mine still unanswered. I have a dilemma. I am currently enrolled in a 4-year university which only offers a veterinary program. I want to stay in a 4-year college and in my state but have checked out all other 4-year universities and they only offer the same and not what i REALLY want to do which is be a vet assistant (I want to start helping animals asap and don't want to be in school forever) so my question is if I get a bs in Vet science, what can I do with it once I graduate?

How?

I think a vet would be fun. I have a beagle; she is the most loveable animal I have ever seen. The only thing is that I wouldn't be able to give them shots, or surgery or hurt them in any way. How do you do that?

It's For the Best

Veterinarians have taken an oath to "do no harm" to animals, and no veterinarian wants to hurt an animal. However, it is just like when you were a baby and your mom had to take you to the doctor for vaccinations to keep you from getting sick. The discomfort of the shot was much less painful than the disease would have been, and most of the diseases that we vaccinate animals for are actually life-threatening, so by vaccinating the animal, we are doing it a huge favor and saving its life. When we have to do surgery, we make sure that anesthesia is complete so that the animal does not feel any pain, and when it wakes up from anesthesia, we use pain medicine just like your doctor would if you needed surgery for something wrong with you.

Horses

Dr., is there such a thing as a horse vet tech? Thanks

Equine Vet Techs

Yes, veterinary technicians are often employed by equine practitioners. In fact, most equine practitioners cannot get along without their technicians. They are invaluable! Rexanne, DVM

What to Do

My 14 year old horse has nervicular. What is the best thing to do for her? Is it all right if I still ride her on her good days? What exactly is nervicular? Can you please explain it so that a 14 year old would understand it?

thank you

Vet in Australia

Hello

I have wanted to be a Vet all my life. I am 14 years old, and am in year 8 at high school. I am thinking about choosing Biology and Chemisry as my electives. Would this be good? Also, what do you find the most challenging part of being a Vet? I know math is important to become a Vet, but do you have to be a wiz at it? Thanks for any help!

Challenges, But a Great Career

To be a vet, you do not have to be a wiz at math, but you must be able to DO math to figure dosages, weights, etc for medicines. Biology, chemistry, physics, math, and communications courses are all important for getting accepted into vet school. The most challenging part of being a vet for me is also being a wife and mother, and making everything work together. Owners of the animals can also be challenging, as they are not always willing to do what's best for the animal. There are also owners who will do more for their animals than they will for their own children, and that is another challenge! But it is a great career, and there are many different jobs veterinarians perform, so even if you don't like one facet of veterinary medicine, there are many other jobs within the profession that might interest you. Keep working toward it!

Dr. Rexanne

Animal Field

I am currently in a Bio major and I really don't think the whole bio major is my calling. I'm constantly repeating classes and becoming more stressed out. So my question is: "Can I go into a business major graduate with a bachelors, then go to a vet tech school to become a vet tech?"

Business is Good

Brandy: Sure, you can do a bachelor in business and then go to tech school. You probably won't be repeating many business courses in vet tech school, as it's pretty concentrated on science and animal courses. It is usually a 2 year school including the summer between those years. You might really enjoy it! Your biology background will be helpful in vet tech school, and your business degree will help you in a veterinary setting, where many techs do not understand why things are done, since they don't have a business background. You will have a better understanding than most techs, which will make you more valuable in the job market. Good luck! Dr. Rexanne

Older student with low GPA

Hi - I am a 36y/o mom of two who has always wanted to become a vet but has been discouraged from doing so because of a low GPA (2.86 right now), age etc. Until now, I have been too intimidated to even apply, thinking that I wouldn't stand a chance. I will be receiving my undergrad degree after 15+ yrs. of pursuing it and would like to know if I stand a chance at all of gaining admission to vet schools? Do they take into consideration at all those people who have kids, husbands, etc.? Thanks and hope to hear from you soon.

It's Highly Demanding

I have no idea what allowances they might make, but if you think you want to, you should apply. HOWEVER, if you have small children, I would think twice or thrice about applying. Believe me, vet school is not something you can conveniently fit in around schedules of school activities, sporting events, extracurricular events, or even any free time for kids. It is highly demanding on time, energy, and emotional involvement, so unless your kids are at least upper teen aged and would understand this (not to mention a husband if there is one), you should put off the attempt til they are out of the nest. If you are serious at this point, you need to make an appointment to talk with a counselor from the vet school and ask these same questions. It may be you need to take courses to fulfill the pre-veterinary qualifications, and if so, you could be working on those (and getting better grades than a 2.86). You are not far off in the grades department, but believe me, the time commitment is incredible.

Dr. Rexanne

jobs??

How hard is it to get a job as a equine vet tech? Are they in high demand, and what is their pay? Thanks

Money Isn't Everything

Good veterinary technicians are always in demand. The pay for an equine tech varies, depending on the part of the country you're in, and how close you live to an area where people have lots of money. If you want to work with ranch horses in Wyoming or Montana, your salary won't be as high as if you work as a tech near a city such as north Chicago or in Kentucky, where many horses are worth much more money. However, money isn't everything, and you should base your decision not on money, but on the environment you want to live in and the people you want to associate yourself with. You'll be much happier in the long run if you put more emphasis on these things. Starting salaries might range anywhere from $7 to $10 per hour, depending on where you go to work. Good luck, and keep working at your goal!

confused!!! help!!!!

I am trying to find out some information about going to school to be a vet. I am 13 and going into the 10th grade at the begining of next school year. What are the classes i need to take and where is the best place to go to school? I live in N.C. but i really dont want to go to N.C. State. Are there any veterinary courses at UNC Chapel Hill?

Vet Tech or Pre Vet

Hi there! I am a recent college graduate who has realized that my true calling is not in the education field as I had planned, but instead in the veterinary field. I am hoping to go back to school and pursue a degree in a veterinary related field. However, here's my dilemma. I have already spent 4 years in college and am now 22. I think I would like to become a vet but am not sure if the commitment for 7 or 8 more years of schooling is feasible. Therefore I considered pursuing a vet tech program. I was wondering what would be the better route to take? If I do vet tech can I easily switch to pre vet sometime down the road should I change my mind and want to go to veterinary school? Or should I start off with pre vet courses? Any advice/help you can offer is much appreciated. Thanks for your time.

A Tough Decision

That's a toughie! It would be a good idea to check out the technician school and the veterinary school of your choice. (The AVMA directory, which every veterinarian probably owns or could be found in a public library, has listings of schools). See what their requirements for classes are.

Pre vet classes are pretty general, and there's a good chance you've already completed much of what you would need for pre-vet. You will make more money as a veterinarian than as a technician, but it will take longer to complete schooling. It totally depends on how much responsibility you want to take for curing an animal, or whether you might be interested in a career in a company or government veterinary job.

There are so many possibilities that it is hard to advise you. The rewards are commensurate with the responsibilitly you take on. If you are more interested in the animal care than diagnosing and doing surgery, then a technician job may be more feasible. In Iowa where I practice, technicians cannot diagnose conditions or disease. They cannot prescribe medicine. And they cannot do surgery. But they can assist with surgeries, do all treatments, and do all nursing care of animals. There are also many jobs with companies where veterinarians OR technicians may head up a team of animal caretakers, do research or animal care, or be on a sales team.

There are endless possibilities either way, so it would be a good idea to shadow a variety of veterinarians (in practice, in government, in industry) and technicians to see what interests you. Good luck!

Rexanne S., DVM

Question for u

What types of activities would u do with this occupation?

Web sites for teachers

Hi,

I am teaching a class this summer with a pre-vet focus for 5 th - 8 th graders and trying to find some web resources/lesson plans that fit with what a vet would do/learn( dissections, parasites, anything ?) could you share any great interactive sites for students and great activity sites for teachers ?

thanks

vet degree

I'm graduated as a vet tech in Russia. Also I finished 2 years in Academy of Vet Medicine in Russia and still study there. I have to finish 4 more years in Academy to become a vet. I had work in animal hospital as a vet assistant with small animals for 1 year, and as a vet trainee for 1 more year with the horses. For the last 3 years I'm living in USA and working as a horse trainer. I got vet assistant course at aducationdirect.com and now I want find out what I should do later. I wish to become a vet in USA, but I don't know which way is better for me. Do I should go to a college and get vet tech course and when I bacame a vet in Russia, finish study as a vet here or may be here is an another way? But only one problem - I don't want stop working.

How can I prepare myself?

Is there any Web site that I can prepare myself, like courses perhaps that I a high school student could take for veterinary school?

I know the courses at school I need to take, but I'm just wondering if there's anything online or anything extra you can do so you are ready and prepared for the schooling.

Shadow a Vet

Jasmin, I'm not a web surfer, so I can't help you with that part of your question. But my advice to you is to take all the math, science, and communications you can, in high school. Also take classes that really interest you, as there are other things in life to think about besides just your career.

If you are able, it would be excellent for you to talk to a veterinarian in your area, and either get a job at a clinic, or volunteer to help walk dogs and clean cages just so you can see what it's like to be in a veterinary clinic. If you can shadow a veterinarian, that would help you tremendously. Ask lots of questions (but not in front of clients, always when you are not in the public eye) of veterinarians and technicians you may be exposed to, and find out what schools in your area are accredited veterinary colleges. There are 19 in the US, and if you are from a state which does not have one, there is probably a neighboring state that has a veterinary college and which has reciprocity with your state. Ask your high school counselor to help you with this.

Good luck. The profession needs good inquisitive bright people to become veterinarians for the future! Dr. S.

College

Does anyone know if there are any colleges in the Los Angeles area that offer a vet tech program?

Schools in PA and Questions

What is a good vet school to go to in Pennsylvania? What is the difference between a vet and a vet tech? Do you go to a 4 year college first or a vet school?

Vet Tech

Take a look at Rexanne's comment above-- 'Vet Tech Duties' on Sept. 2, 2003. It will give you information on vet techs.

Schooling

I'm a sophmore in high school and I am very active in the equine world. I love animals and want to make it my career. I just want to know how much school is required as in what type of degrees?

Vet school

Check this out for information about vet school. http://www.careers.iptv.org/enhanced/1163/ec_profile.cfm

Zoo Vet

I have always wanted to work with wild animals. I am considering becoming a zoo vet. Does anyone know how I would go around to this? Would I go to a regular vet school and go from there? Any help would be great!

surgery

Is there any practice in animal medicine that requires no surgery ? I want to become a veterinarian but I know I don't have the will to preform surgery. Is there any specific practice that I can follow to avoid cutting an animal open ? Thanks for your time. Hope I don't get back a heart breaking answer.

No Surgery

There are many jobs for veterinarians which don't require the performance of surgery. There are many practices where some veterinarians do the examinations and diagnosis, while other doctors do the surgery. The problem may be veterinary school. I believe that all veterinary schools require a basic knowledge of surgery and the performance of a minimum of some surgery. But there are some schools that are using real-time surgery, where it is computerized. The other thing to consider is that you may become accustomed to performing surgery, when you realize that the animal is always asleep when surgery is performed, and the pain management medications now mean that the animal is much more comfortable after surgery. In fact, animals cannot be told how to take care of themselves after surgery, so we must do that for them, and sometimes that means confinement to a cage or small area because these guys wake up from surgery and want to jump all over the place (which is not good for ANYBODY right after surgery) because they feel so good. The newer methods of surgery are much less invasive and produce less pain. So don't give up a dream of becoming a veterinarian just because you are afraid of surgery. That is a long way down the road yet, and you have time to overcome that fear. Find someone to help you with it! Good luck! Dr. Rexanne :)

Moving to Canada

I'm currently living in São Miguel (Portugal) and I'm in high school taking Biology and Chemistry as "específicas", and my family and I are planning to move to Canada this year, I've also have this childhood dream of becoming a vet. Anyways, what I would like to know is if will have to take the twelth grade again or do I have to take certain classes to go to vet school? Will I have trouble getting into vet school because I'm Portuguese and my english isn't as good as most people's? Could someone please advise me on what to do? Thankx P.S. I have double nationality because I was born in Toronto so nationality wise it shoulnd't be a problem.

Vet Assistant Qualities

Hi.. I want to be a Vet Assistant one day. I have always wanted to be an vet assistant since I was little. First I will go to a Community College ARC so it would be simpler for me to start out fresh and get better grades. I want to know what qualities I need to become a vet. Then I'll try to get in UC Davis That is one famous vet college in California. I have an B in every subject but is that even good enough? I have Freshman Seminar, Computers, Algebra 1A, and Earth Science. It's good because all those subjects involve what I need in an vet assistant. I'm kind of scared that I will not make it as an vet assistant. It's what I really want to do later in life. Thanks! Hannah

Vet tech prep

People interested in becoming veterinary technicians should concentrate on math, science, and English and communications courses in high school, besides whatever else interests you (like art, music, language).

To become a licensed technician, you need to apply to an accredited veterinary technician school (your high school counselor should be able to help you find one close to you) and be accepted.

There are jobs for veterinary assistants, who are not fully licensed, which still allow you to work with and be around animals, but they usually don't pay as much. Depending on what part of the country you live in, you can expect to make $7 to $10 per hour as a new graduate. After years of work, you may earn $20 or more per hour, again depending on the area in which you live, and whether or not you work in a private practice, or for some large company.

The tech programs usually consist of 2 years of schooling plus a summer internship of some kind. My best advice to any of you wishing to pursue this field is to find a veterinary clinic where you can volunteer your time if a paying job is not available for weekends, holidays, or summers, or to shadow a technician for a few days.

You might be very surprised to see all the things a certified veterinary technician does in a day. They have a very exciting job, but as with any job, there are mundane, boring things that need to be done each day, like cleaning cages, cleaning up after surgeries and proceedures, etc. There isn't a job in the world that doesn't have some mundane part to it.

You need to find joy in the parts of the job that you like, and the people you work with, to be fulfilled in any job. Good luck! Dr. S

A Prep Book

Do you know of anyone who offers a prep book to prepare for the Vet Tech exam? I'm looking for something similar to the GRE Prep, or SAT prep type books that have sample tests in them to help me practice and prepare for the Vet Tech exam.

Thanks,

ed

Equine massage

I am currently a volunteer at a critical care facility for abused/neglected horses. I am also studying equine massage and hope to use it to help rehabilitate the horses at the facility and also privately owned animals. Would it be beneficial for me to meet with local veterinarians? Do equine practitioners work with massage therapists? What is the current thinking on this type of work and it's benefits for horses recovering from injury or illness? Thank you!

Teacher, Vet Tech in progress?

I am trying to decide if being a Vet Tech is for me. I love being around animals, caring for them. Since I'll be working for another 30+ years, I want to be happy more than I want to make money. I already have a B.S. in health and P.E. education. My question is: if there are no schools around offering vet tech classes, are online classes just as credible? How will I do lab exercises ("hands on" experience). And do you know what the credentials for Indiana are? I search and there is almost nothing on IN. Is there enough demand in IN? Sorry so many questions, but I'm trying to decide if this is a good move for me. Thanks for ANY help or advice you can give!

See above

Tammy, You will find the answers to some of your questions in the other entries in this discussion board. Read above and below to see other people's comments and questions about vet techs and online courses.

Regarding Indiana specifically, I'm not sure. The vet featured on this Web site is in Iowa and doesn't have Indiana info. Maybe someone will respond to your question.

Career Project

Hi!! I'm doing a project of what career I want to do. In computer class we are making a slide show of what career we want to do and what we see ourselves in 10-15 years. It's due one week after winter break. The problem is I'm trying to find what the requirements and qualifications are to be a vet assistant and the wages per hour or day! Can anyone tell me please?? Thanks! Hannah

See above

Check out the comments above. There are several regarding vet assistants.

Emergency Vets on AnimalPlanet

Have you ppl heard of Emergency Vets on Animal Planet??? I warch it all the time and I like Amazing Animals show too. I have 2 dwarf hamsters and one golden retriever named Amber. She just turned 15 on Dec.16th. We gave her a meat birthday cake and meat soup and brought her tennis balls and stuffed toys for dogs. I walked her around on her b'day. Did any of you visit he www.petco.com msg boards?

Vet Colleges

There's more than 19 vet colleges in the USA. Here is the link...

http://www.tiermedizin.de/public/studvet/vet_coll_int.htm

Isn't this boring??

This site is kind of slow, don't you think? I'm trying to make this an active board where we can talk about animals and careers as a vet or vet tech.. vet assistant.. but no one else is really helping! And someone wanted to know some great colleges. There's some colleges all over the USA. UC Davis college in CA which I'm going to go to one day.

Vet study for single mother

I am a 26 year old single mother. I have worked full time for years, but am not satisfied with my job/careers. I think that I would be a great vet, and it is the only career that I think I would truly enjoy. However, I am unsure as to how realistic a goal this is. Are there opportunities available? Is there any way to decrease the length of the program through summer studies?

Four-year Curriculum

There are no ways to circumvent or shorten the actual veterinary college training. It is always a 4-year curriculum. There has been discussion about whether it should be lengthened to 5 years considering the amount of knowledge to be learned, but for now it remains a 4-year course. The pre-veterinary coursework is currently 68 to 72 hours at schools which have these curricula. Some of the pre-vet coursework could be done at other schools or during the summer, but it's important to find out if the school which offers these courses would transfer the credits to a College of Veterinary Medicine (CVM) and whether or not the CVM would accept those courses. Single mothers have become veterinarians, but it is a long uphill climb, and you must develop a good network of helpers, and be prepared for an arduous schedule, which you already know about as a single working mother. The verterinary curriculum is pretty inflexible. Be prepared to forego many of your childrens' activities in which you may now be able to participate. Good luck! Veterinary Medicine is a great field and a very rewarding career. Rexanne S., DVM

What To Do

I want to be a vet assistant for all animals. What does it take?

See above

Kara: See the comments in 'Vet Assistant Qualities' above.

Riding

I am going to be a senior in high school next year. I have been working with horses my whole life and I wanted to become a trainer. But I have found that this field does not make enough money. I am wondering if becoming a vet would be a good option for me. I enjoy doing this type of work. I was wondering if becoming a vet I could use it to own my own barn and do training on the side.

Ask a Lot of Questions

If you invest time and money going through veterinary school and graduate, the possibilities are endless as far as what you can do. You could be a breeder, a trainer, a consultative veterinarian for other barns or breeders, do training on the side, whatever you want to do. It depends on how busy you want to be earning money as a veterinarian, as to how much time you would have to do training on the side. You should definitely do something that makes you happy in life and money while important is not the only goal.

One thing to consider is what it costs in terms of time and money to become a graduate veterinarian. After 3 or 4 years of pre-veterinary courses, there will be 4 years of veterinary school, and most veterinarians graduate now with $60,000 to $80,000 of debt. I believe this is because many of them do not work to help pay expenses during school, and many spend much more money than might need to be spent on living expenses, but it is a factor to consider. If you were to graduate with that kind of debt load and go to work for someone, I'm pretty sure that your free time to train on the side might be limited.

On the other hand, if you want to set up your own practice, ask LOTS of questions beforehand, as it is horrendously expensive to set up a clinic. A mobile practice might be feasible, but again, you'd better put pencil to paper with someone who knows how to figure this stuff out before you make a judgement as to whether or not you want to be an equine veterinarian.

Good luck!

How can I be a successful vet

I know that becoming a vet is alot of hard work but this is somthing that I want to do. I love animals and I know alot about them but I need to know how I can become a successful vet. In the up coming years I plan to be the best vet there is.

Equine specialist

I am working as a vet tech in a small animal practice to gain experience, but my true love is horses. They are my passion and my life. However, I don't find the idea of treating cows, pigs and goats attractive. I only want to be an equine vet, a specialist. Is that possible? Is it possible to only be an equine veterinarian?

Vet School

I am in Florida working in a molecular biology lab part time and at a museum of natural history as a Collections Assistant part time as well. I have worked in an animal hospital for about 3 years and have worked at a Bird Rehab center as hospital coordinator for a year, performing surgeries, dosage administration, blood collection and other animal rehabilitation duties. I have always wanted to take care of animals, more so help them in any way that I could. My family and I have 7 cats 4 which we rescued and 3 that we adopted. I graduated from Penn State in May 2002 with a B.S. in Biology. I now want to pursue the career as a Veterinarian but my grades in college were not so good. I graduated with a 2.35 GPA and I am very discouraged about pursuing the path to become a Vet because of this. What other avenues are there to getting into Vet school, I heard that the schools in the Midwest are a little easier to get into. I feel that I am going to be wasting my time if I apply to these schools with what I have. Can you suggest a way to satisfy my goal of becoming a veterinarian through different methods to earn back my credibility, scholarly wise?

Thank You,

Joshua

Don't Forget Overseas

Make sure you apply to the vet schools overseas which are accredited to AVMA, so your qualification would be as good as any from the States.

Some of the accredited onces i know are: 1) Murdoch University in Australia 2) Massey University in New Zealand 3) University of London, UK 4) University of Glasgow, Scotland 5) University of Edinburgh, Scotland

Do research on their website. Best of luck on your application.

Keep trying. I know a friend who applied and only got accepted the 4th round. Keep building on your work and farm experiences.

You'll get there, sooner or later!

Don't give up

Joshua,

Don't quit trying just because your grades weren't the best. Your experience since then will help. Apply to all the schools you can, whether or not you believe you might get in. If you live in a state with a veterinary school, your best bet will be in that school, since states with vet schools usually discriminate against residents of other states that have vet schools. If you don't get in the first time, try again. There is no guarantee no matter what your grades, but schools are realizing that they need to consider more than just grades. Sounds like your experience might weigh well in your favor. You might consider a foreign school, though getting licensed to work in the US with a foreign veterinary degree can be difficult. Don't give up. Good luck!

Dr. Rexanne

Confused

I never went to high school but am getting my GED soon. I'm 16 and want to be a vet but am not sure if I have a good chance of getting into a veterinarian school without a high school diploma and just a GED. Because all the Web sites I read that were about this subject said that you need good high school grades on top of four years of pre college to be accepted. Does this mean I don't have a chance or is there something I can do about it that would help my chances at doing good in this field of work? Also, if you don't mind me asking, how old were you when you finished all your vet schooling? -Thanks!

You can do it!

Dear Tiffany, NOTHING precludes you from working toward veterinary school. When you get your GED, the best thing would be for you to apply to colleges that will accept GEDs (most will) and start getting general education courses. It can be a community college, a university, anyplace that will accept your GED. Then you will have to work your rear end off, because you will need excellent grades in pre-veterinary courses to qualify for veterinary school.

Find out from a guidance counselor at the school you go to, what classes are required for pre-veterinary medicine. They are general courses at first, then become more specific the closer you get to applying to veterinary school. You will have to take chemistry and physics, plus biology and other courses.

If you like animals and want to become a veterinarian badly enough, you will work hard enough to do well in these courses. There is help out there for students who want to excel, even if they are not excellent students to begin with. But you must be willing to ask for help, then do what is advised to help you learn. Whatever college you go to after getting your GED will have counselors who can advise you on coursework. If your counselor doesn't seem interested in helping, ask for another who might.

Be persistent. Don't give up, but if it turns out that you decide NOT to go into veterinary school, there are lots of other jobs that will enable you to work with animals. Maybe a veterinary technician job would be something to consider, as the schooling is much less (2 solid years, as opposed to 7 or 8 to be a veterinarian).

I went into pre-veterinary medicine at Kansas State University when I was 18, did 3 and 1/2 years of pre-vet work, worked for one semester to establish residency in Kansas so I could be admitted to KSU veterinary school, and then did four years of veterinary school. I was 26 when I graduated. Many students nowadays are much older than that, and there are many more women in veterinary school now than there were when I went to KSU.

Good luck. I admire your ambition and wish you well.

Dr. S., DVM

Vet Tech Schools in TX

Doc, I am 23 years old and I live in Ft. Worth. You would think that there would be ample schools in this area that offer a vet tech program, but no. There is NOTHING! I have taken a vet asistant course, and as you stated earlier, it was a bit of a waste of time, though it did get me in the door at a vet clinic.

So I have a few questions: know of any vet tech schools in North Texas? Why are they all in Arizona, Pennsylvania, or Nebraska??? Also, I know I can get my degree online, but I really don't want to. Do you think that a vet would pass over a tech who got their degree online? Thanks for any help.

Texas schools

Katy,
There are 5 tech schools in Texas, 4 with full accreditation and 1 with provisional accreditation. Here are the names and numbers for each:

Cedar Valley College (full accreditation)

Lancaster, TX 75134 972-860-8019

Midland College (full)

Midland, TX 79705 915-685-4619

Palo Alto College (provisional)

San Antonio 78224 210-531-8709

Sul Ross State University (full)

Alpine, TX 79830 915-837-8205

Tomball College (full)

Tomball, TX 77375 281-351-3357

Your veterinarian has these schools listed in his/her AVMA directory, if you lose this list. Many veterinarians will hire uncertified techs and train them, but many of the clinics will hire only certified technicians who have passed the state and national board tests. Good luck!

Dr. Rexanne :)

Distance Learning Program

I found a program to get a diploma for a vet assistant at home. It says it's accredited, but how do I know for sure if I do decide to do the classes, if I will be able to get a job when I'm done? In other words, will I be able to get a job right away, or need experience first?

Have another option

Have another job to fall back on just in case, but there is a need for vets. Follow what you believe.

none

Ask the school to send your reference sources and contact them. People who have graduated and are now in business. Contact the Chamber of Comerce in the city where the school is located....see if they back it. Ask if they have PELL grants...which are Federal financial aid...They must be legit to offer this

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